Thanks for the kind answer, but I'm saddened by the "nothing to resolve here" as this is a headache. Like any headache, it pops up when you least expect it and at the worst time.
I truly appreciate all the hard work that Joomla developers have put in over the decades. I have been happily using Joomla for 15 years now and have gone through all of the migrations and upgrades since v1.3, so I appreciate all the work that has been done as continues to be done including those to make the upgrades and migrations easy for us.
In making all those changes, there are always a million and one decisions to be made, sometimes with nothing more than an educated guess as to whether it will prove to be the right decision down the road or not.
Clearly, from all the reading I've done in the last 10 months about this and from left Sharky's answer, the decision has been made that the home page template should show if the itemid is missing, and you're sticking to it, come hell or high water.
At prima facie, this is a bewildering choice. We all know that home page templates are wildly different than the default template for the rest of the site, unless you're doing a one page "business card" site, which in that case you would probably not be using Joomla.
Now, I don't know all the intricacies that are involved in order to pick the home page template over the default template and J4/J5 being so dependent on the itemid, it may not be possible to select the default template without 10 decades of programming. However, this is a problem for me and it may be that out of millions of users, I'm the only one affected, but I doubt it. Seriously.
The REAL WORLD consequences of this decision is that if the itemid goes missing, it is equivalent to the site breaking. You are taken to the home page because something went wrong. Is that the call? Apparently so. Hence, it is "expected behavior." It shouldn't have to be IMHO, but it is. I understand that this is not in all cases, but I'd be really surprised if it's not the majority of cases.
So, in conclusion, nothing to see here. Move along.
Tomás
I truly appreciate all the hard work that Joomla developers have put in over the decades. I have been happily using Joomla for 15 years now and have gone through all of the migrations and upgrades since v1.3, so I appreciate all the work that has been done as continues to be done including those to make the upgrades and migrations easy for us.
In making all those changes, there are always a million and one decisions to be made, sometimes with nothing more than an educated guess as to whether it will prove to be the right decision down the road or not.
Clearly, from all the reading I've done in the last 10 months about this and from left Sharky's answer, the decision has been made that the home page template should show if the itemid is missing, and you're sticking to it, come hell or high water.
At prima facie, this is a bewildering choice. We all know that home page templates are wildly different than the default template for the rest of the site, unless you're doing a one page "business card" site, which in that case you would probably not be using Joomla.
Now, I don't know all the intricacies that are involved in order to pick the home page template over the default template and J4/J5 being so dependent on the itemid, it may not be possible to select the default template without 10 decades of programming. However, this is a problem for me and it may be that out of millions of users, I'm the only one affected, but I doubt it. Seriously.
The REAL WORLD consequences of this decision is that if the itemid goes missing, it is equivalent to the site breaking. You are taken to the home page because something went wrong. Is that the call? Apparently so. Hence, it is "expected behavior." It shouldn't have to be IMHO, but it is. I understand that this is not in all cases, but I'd be really surprised if it's not the majority of cases.
So, in conclusion, nothing to see here. Move along.
Tomás
Statistics: Posted by tomasfc — Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:59 am